Curse

fallot · Mar 12, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

Dark fury reads the same way but gives you adrenaline each time you hit.

Read other skills with the same description that act differently. thanx have a nice day.

Vengeful Weapon only works for one hit. I came across it lots of times during the event and used it myself. Its a little like Reversal of Fortune actually.

Joh · Mar 12, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Other way around. At level 14 it lasts for 11 seconds and steals 33 health every time you're struck with an attack.

Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit.

If this is true, someone deserves spanks.

According to GWFreaks:
Elite Spell. Hold Khanhei's ashes for [5..29] seconds. Whenever a foe strikes you in combat while you are holding Khanhei's ashes, you steal [5..10] Health from that foe.

That being Restoration Magic 0-12.

Former Ruling · Mar 12, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

They accidently swithed them - GWfreak's program put the skills in rather quickly, and without the actual skills to reference anymore.

The Build doesn't exist. Sorry.

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

Other way around. At level 14 it lasts for 11 seconds and steals 33 health every time you're struck with an attack.

Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit.

I'll let the OP work out how this affects his build.

Peace,
-CxE

NOT according to the GWFreaks Prog, I used that prog to make this build, and if they screwed up, I can't be held responsible.

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by Haggard

I totally agree, if youre surrounded by 14 smites, and get rended, you can NOT recast prot spirit before they next hit you. My 55 partner has managed it once or twice with 3 smites, but thats extreme reflexes combined with insane luck.

EDIT:

The term strikes means that, but when followed by "in combat" it means attacks only

And LOL Ensign, nicely spotted

Please, may I draw your attention to the skill "ancestors' Fury"

All foes are STRUCK for X lightning damage.

and It's an AoE spell, therefore proving my point.

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

They accidently swithed them - GWfreak's program put the skills in rather quickly, and without the actual skills to reference anymore.

The Build doesn't exist. Sorry.

I'd like to know where you get your information from.

If there is no longer ANY refernce to this skill whatsoever, then how do you know that it's a mistake?

Why don't we just wait until factions comes out to find out then? I will test this build out by myself, and I'll post my results here, this way, no-body loses out, except maybe me... which I doubt.

capblueberry · Mar 12, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

this may sound noob but how are ppl already posting builds and stuff for the ritualist b4 you can even play as it?

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Download section on GWG homepage, GWFreaks Character building tool, get it, it's sweet.

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by Align

Don't you drop "large" items when knocked down?

no, they just "disappear" while the knockdown animation is being played

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

Other way around. At level 14 it lasts for 11 seconds and steals 33 health every time you're struck with an attack.

Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit.

I'll let the OP work out how this affects his build.

Peace,
-CxE

If you're right, then this build is royally screwed. But where did you get this from?
Surely you didn't remember the effect of this skill from the factions event? and If so, you might hae a hazy memory, that, or GWFreaks need to fix that prog of thiers.

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

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Originally Posted by Manic Smile

knockdown = able to solo bigger mobs = faster farming...

SoJ > SS on a 55 monk

SS > SoJ on a 55 nec

yeh, but like I said, you can't spam SoJ, you you're basically screwed until it rechages, you'd be better off being a 55 N/E with aftershock.

capblueberry · Mar 12, 2006, 06:51 PM // 18:51

im still a bit confused about how you guys seem to of already used this build and stuff...please exlain

PS: i downloaded gwfreaks

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55

well, just open it up and search up Ritualist Skills, I was just browsing around when I found this build (which might be screwed now).

If you can't run it, you'll need to download the .NET prog at Microsoft.com

Haggard · Mar 12, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

All foes are STRUCK for X lightning damage.

and It's an AoE spell, therefore proving my point.

If you would like to actually read my post, i said that when 'struck' is followed by 'in combat' it means attacks only.

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22

ah, ok, sry, was a bit confused by that.

Glasswalker · Mar 12, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Reality Check:

A) You can't use any weapon/offhand combo because you are holding something (the ashes).
B) Sadly, Ensign is 100% right. Check www.guildwiki.org for confirmation.

Without doing the research myself, there may be ways to speed that up though...
C) Yup, struck in combat, but what build can farm everything? And as you say, you've got 3 other skills. I would recommend breeze as one of them... It would make an awesome cover Enchant for PS anyway.
D) The two seconds it takes to cast Ancestor's Rage means you will almost never pull it off.

If played right, you might have something invincible, but this won't be solo. You will need someone else to do the damage.

Sereng Amaranth · Mar 12, 2006, 09:12 PM // 21:12

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Vengeful_Was_Khanhei

Ensign · Mar 12, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joh

According to GWFreaks:
Elite Spell. Hold Khanhei's ashes for [5..29] seconds. Whenever a foe strikes you in combat while you are holding Khanhei's ashes, you steal [5..10] Health from that foe.

GWFreaks is wrong then, they reversed the numeric fields. That program has a reputation for inaccuracies - for instance, they had incorrect breakpoints on a ton of skills for a very long time (assuming that they ever fixed that). It has some other nice features but I wouldn't trust it for skill descriptions.

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Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

NOT according to the GWFreaks Prog, I used that prog to make this build, and if they screwed up, I can't be held responsible.

Can't be held responsible? What is that supposed to mean? You made a build that doesn't work. Blame the program if you like, no one really cares. Just correct the error and forget about the build.

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Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

Please, may I draw your attention to the skill "ancestors' Fury"

Bad skill templating. It's not going to trigger the ashes.

Determined Shot has a miss chance on low Marksmanship. It's been almost a year of retail and that still isn't in the description.

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Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

If you're right, then this build is royally screwed. But where did you get this from?

I meticulously screenshotted every skill description from the Priest of Balthazar at both level 0 and level 15 for personal reference. Those screenshots have since been deleted but their contents are still stored in a spreadsheet.

The data in that spreadsheet has been independently duplicated by Silmor, as well as the guildwiki project and the Knights Templar. While I cannot say what the skill does in the test *at this moment*, I can say with certainty that those numbers were correct during the PvP EXTREME weekend.

Peace,
-CxE

Homicidal Brainiac · Mar 12, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

thanks man, you just saved me a whole lot of money

I'll just make a Ri/N MM instead

(see other thread) (not my thread)

legless_the_elf · Apr 02, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Ok, there might be something I am missing but how do you get 55hp if your holding the ashes? Is it even a 55 build?